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green, all things relating to the environment and our energy policy how optimistic are you that we're going to find a solution to this in the coming years, which is to say the next four? >> you know, in hearing the president speak and reading -- it's i guess confused as an observer and i love listening to you but trying to parse out what it means because what it goes back to for me, in the election, when politicians were separating ow the economy from birth control i was like, no, it's the same. when we hear, we have to see what's economically sound, and when we talk about climate change and energy, didn't i just hear, and don't we think the future is green jobs and what that means? so kind of stepping back, makes me feel frustrated because i feel like isn't that the direction we need to be going in and how do we convince americans that, yeah, you know what, prices at pump have to go up if we want to have them not? >> you can ask somebody who has lost a business in coney island or in the rockaways if this is about jobs and growth. >> right. >> there are people who are going to take
're in a changing environment, as you just noeted, when you're losing the cuban vote in florida, that's a brand-new day in american politics for the gop. >> they should have been listening to you. michael steele and steve elmendorf, thank you very much. >>> and this veterans day marnt the fuirst time in a decade in which there are no soldiers fighting in iraq. >> this 9/11 generation that stepped forward after the towers fell and in the years sense have stepped into history. running one of the greatest chapters of military service our country has ever known. tour after tour, year after year, you and your families have done all that this country has asked. you've done that and more. >> joseph carnes goodwin is a member of that post-9/11 generation that served in iraq and afghanistan and joins me now from boston. joe, great to see you. tell me about what made you want to serve and you did two tours, i think? >> that's right. one in iraq and one in afghanistan. >> and one in afghanistan. you, obviously, we've known for you for a long time. your parents, doris kearns goodwin, and your father, of co
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